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Interesting, but I'll post again when I have something more constructive to post... I need to let it sink in... 

   ( wtf I know? sink in what does he mean.... )

errr there werent banks in the dark ages....treasuries...not banks...

Oblivion style combat system. You know, where you click to attack and stuff.

Also, a big ice realm that is designed exactly how I say (well, you can design the frozen wasteland bit). I always wanted Bronimina to feature in something big.

make it free for sure.

try to make up a unique race no other mmo goes for.

if your evil you could become a vampire or werewolf?

oh sorry about that i didnt notice that was going to happen.

how could we forget mounts!?

One demand: ALLOW COMBAT WHILE ON MOUNTS

Please Note: Charley/Cedric is a girl.

And ofc fighting on mounts!! Thats the whole purpose of it :p
Also, what about Marriage and Player-Owned Housing? {Not sure if this is what Demonsul had in mind}

Player-owned housing would be good. I was actually suggesting player-made weapons that looked however you made them, but housing would work on the same principle, and it could allow for more creativity. Also, you could get a home-teleport item and stuff.
But marriage? I'm not sure...if it was just for the roleplay factor, maybe, if there were bonuses, it would just promote random business couplings which would annoy RPers worldwide...

   It looks like your mostly going in the right direction, a decent plot is important, you don't want to get labeled as another "non-stop grindfest"  other things you can do to prevent that title is to have a fairly detailed crafting system as mentioned above. Once you've got a decent plot, graphics, and crafting system, you should spend a lot of time on the skill chart, there should be at least a couple different ways to play each class.  

   Game to look at for skill chart:
 Rappelz-   has an excellent skill chart and great graphics, where it failed though is that there are hardly any good quests, and even less of a plot,  past level 30 you basically go on dungeon parties, and that's it. Don't make their mistakes, but check them out anyways. 
 
   Good game to look at for plot and crafting:
Atlantica online- great plot, decent graphics, good crafting set up.

  Another successful game to look at:
Perfect World- a well-rounded game, decent plot, you're kept fairly interested, and you usually have something to look forward to, this is because of the "special quests" you get at every tenth level, where you must enlist the help of others to beat a kind of dungeon-like area, you get special weapons and items from these quests, the items can be identified because they are glowing, making them very fashionable to walk around with.
     Perfect world also has in-depth player customization, with some work, you can usually get your character to look like you (or whatever you want it to look like) and they have a HUGE world.    Definetely look at perfect world, they know how to keep their customers.  

     And one last thing, consider making it free to play, but with an item shop, item shop games (that are good) will make alot of money, reasons:   
    you will bring in more potential customers because they are not immediately frightened off by subscription fees, game costs, etc. 
  Players have the option of buying a lot of things from you, or just a few things, some players will end up paying much more than they would have with your subscription fee. 

   Just make sure that you don't overpower your item shop, have items that are fashionable (special clothes, mounts, etc.[see perfect world]) or make things more convenient, but don't make them necessary, or way overpowered (special weapons that own everyone, etc)  this will annoy people and you will be labeled as an "overpowered cash-shop game"  yes, that is a label, and it's caused several games to not be as successful as they should.

   good luck.  I've played ALOT of games, if you have any questions you can pm me :)

erm, im pretty sure this was meant to be a completely fictional game, so including greeks and romans as the 2 main peeps wudnt be incredibly wise unless you want to change the genre of the game...

 ooh, I like the idea of choosing a god to pursue the path of though :) would add an interesting element to the personalization and skill chart.  Being able to choose a god to follow would mean there would be many different ways to play each class (as long as the god path effected skill chart and stats).   And have some gods evil and some good.  Oh and maybe once you reach a certain level it gets added in to your title, for ex: "Fitesalot of Zeuss", hmmm....   I would play that game :D assuming the other stuff was okay also (crafting, graphics, fight style)        
    What you need to do is let some of these roleplaying guys write you a plot, something about the gods chosen races, epic battles, good and evil, blah blah blah.

    Another thing you have to consider is how you let players interact, are you going to just have standard guilds? Just a group of players that band together to fight? Or can guilds own dungeons, cities, areas on the map?  Can guilds build/add things to cities? Will there be organized war zones? etc. , etc.

Lord Wraith Report 12/9/2008 1:31:59 PM

Please Note: Charley/Cedric is a girl. And ofc fighting on mounts!! Thats the whole purpose of it :p Also, what about Marriage and Player-Owned Housing? {Not sure if this is what Demonsul had in mind}

F*ck you......*beep*.  And yeah...why doesn't Septim come in here and tell us everything that Fable has? Let's just copy every other game made...

Nope, I denied it to him and I'm cheating on him but SHH!!!! Don't tell him!

And lol, never played Fable. I just put in the points I've seen from other games. Filesalot seems to know quite a bit too. He wrote everything for me ^^ (and more :p)

Phht...yeah denied what? I have a gf you m0r0n...didn't think I have to tell all of VU nublets all the time...

GAME NAME:

(Not to be reveled at this time (FOR GOOD REASONS)

ABOUT:

ACCOUNT SETUP

When you first create an account you will need to choose a GOOD/EVIL. Once you choose this you will be asked for a GENDER. (If you where Male you could pick to play a Female if you want) There will then be a huge list that displays RACES. All depending on your race you choose there will then be a CLASS list. One you pick this class it will tell you about how the war started… I won’t go into detail on this part.

HOW SKILLS WORK

SKILLS will be based under SKILL POINTS and SKILL LEVELS. By this I mean the say you choose to be a human there will be a max skill point for each skill. (Such as Strength, Agility, Awareness, ETC). The highest skill point will be 10. I made it at 10 this way because lets say that there is a player that’s an Elf, and a Human. The Elf will have skill points of 10 (That’s Max) and the Human may only have 2 skill points. For each skill points that race/class has can go up 5 Skill Levels.
*NOTE THE SKILL POINTS NAME MAY CHANGE*PLEASE POST COMMENTS IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS*

This Is all I have time for but I will post more tomorrow. I’m off to bed. Goodnight.

The point of this game is to work as a team, You could servive on your own but better of in a kingdom. Ill get to those later

you forgot the FREE GAMEPLAY part ...

So it will have the basics free while "members" get extra perks?

uumm, I guess what Sanoh said is a good base, but it needs a lot of work, I don't really like the way you divided up magic, there should be "good" and "evil" magic, since that whole concept is part of the game idea, but it should vary some between races and class. I'll write up a detailed list of what I think good strengths/weaknesses should be for each race and class, and maybe make a basic outline of a skill tree...
     All in all don't really agree with Sanohs post that much... but hey, gotta start somewhere.  :)
    
  I think you should run a cash shop game, not a limited account game, those are annoying. If you make items in the shop that are cool, or make things much more convenient, you'll draw in much more customers, because they'll be able to compete even if their accounts aren't paid, but they will want to buy from the cash shop if you do it right. Look at Perfect world, you can purchase unique mounts in the cash shop, and after a guy riding on a dragon swoops over your head, you kind of want to :D    strongly consider doing a cash shop :)

The 'war' should not be race group vs race group but one random side vs the other random side. Racial groups limit people to joining one side if one race is most popular, whereas if any race can join any side (or even go neutral, although this should not be a starting option) then the sides will be more even and more diverse.

(if you're saying 'whaddya mean, war?', all good MMORPG plots have a 'war'. That way you get a constant enemy, even if other NPC ones move around.)

who the hell would want to be a minstrel? thats a good way to boost your internet ego dress yourself up in funny clothes and play some tunes for a knight....

Have a skill called "attack" where you attack someone with your sword. When do I get my free 6 months?  Oh and since I thought of the idea, every time you attack something my name should appear in the corner. 

Mr. Zump Thats a *beep* idea. O im sorry a *beep* idea for a *beep* person/ Why would I put your name anywhere on the game besides the hall of SHAME.

As for class/Ranks. I will be making it so once you start you will start as a peasant. This is for free people. They can choose almost any job they can think of. Each has certain good traits and bad traits. But everyone can attack. Just some are weaker then others. Thats why I created the skill level and skill points. Anyone got a good name instead of skill points. Read the other posts I made to read about them. Now a nobleman is someone within a kingdom, and the only way to be a nobleman is to be born into a kingdom or for the king to let you in the kingdom. And yes you can have kids, and get married. The reason being is so you can be stabbed in the back. lol Better get good gaurds.

I recommend you guys watch some movies about this kind of stuff.